KK blasted... I want some sympathy here!

[Smyler]

OK this is what happened, my nick is Doremifa...

0.12/0.25 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 13 February 2007 19:56:11
TH Mini 35 (Real /Cash Game )
Seat 1: rohrmantik (13.75)
Seat 2: carla> (24.78)
Seat 3: Dusan87 (27.74)
Seat 4: Eli_Poker (9.14)
Seat 5: Billy.whiz (29.21)
Seat 6: Doremifa (16.30)
Seat 7: ziarek21 (25.00)
Seat 8: Ïðèãîæèé (32.07)
Seat 9: Freeze211 (7.88)
Seat 10: ukibácsi (39.41)
Ïðèãîæèé post SB 0.12
Freeze211 post BB 0.25
** Deal **
rohrmantik [N/A, N/A]
carla> [N/A, N/A]
Dusan87 [N/A, N/A]
Eli_Poker [N/A, N/A]
Billy.whiz [N/A, N/A]
Doremifa [Kc, Ks]
Ïðèãîæèé [N/A, N/A]
Freeze211 [N/A, N/A]
ukibácsi [N/A, N/A]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
ukibácsi Fold
rohrmantik Call 0.25
carla> Fold
Dusan87 Call 0.25
Eli_Poker Fold
Billy.whiz Fold
Doremifa Raise to 2.25
Ïðèãîæèé Fold
Freeze211 Fold
rohrmantik Call 2.25
Dusan87 Fold
*** Flop(Board): *** : [Ac, Ad, As]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
rohrmantik Check
Doremifa Check
*** Turn(Board): *** : [Ac, Ad, As, Js]
*** Bet Round 3 ***
rohrmantik Check
Doremifa Check
*** River(Board): *** : [Ac, Ad, As, Js, 3c]
*** Bet Round 4 ***
rohrmantik All-in 11.50
Doremifa Call 11.50
*** Showdown *** : Rake: 1.00 Total Pot: 27.12
rohrmantik [8d, Ah] Four of a kind, aces Win :27.12
Doremifa [Kc, Ks] Full house Win :0.00



I suppose these things happen, but what are the odds....

[The Professor]

ouch, very unlucky.

[kentox]

ace 8 outflopping kings... 1 in 3

[OdinUK]

Originally Posted by kentox

ace 8 outflopping kings... 1 in 3

yeh but it is much easier to folds kings here if theres only 1 or even 2 aces on board. when all three drop there is only a small chance of the other person having the 4th ace.

On this flop unless i have a real big indication the other player has an ace i will put the money in almost all the time. Theres too many players out there that will commit a lot of chips with any pocket pair here to be folding in my opinion.

[Smyler]

Thanks for the odds. My thinking was this; after a large raise anyone staying with me should have a (high) pocket pair, AK or AKs, so with cowboys obviously i'm either leading or perhaps behind to AA. When the flop is all As the chance of there being another A out there is low, so I reckon the guy has QQ at best. I don't want to scare the guy off the hand straight away, there is a chance he will pick up a FH on the turn or the river (if for instance he called with KQs), since i have the best FH this would be a good result.

What the hell the guy was doing calling a large raise before the flop with A8 offsuit i don't know. Frankly i lost to a chancer who got lucky.

Any one out there who wouldn't have gone all in with AAAKK? I don't think so.

[Deuces]

Phil Hellmuth