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Old 08-14-2006, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Fenrir View Post
Still 10 players, I get dealt QQ in mid position.

Guy1 in first position raises to 3x the blind, Guy2 to my right reraises to 8x the blind.
The QQ although a premium hand - suddenly becomes very precarious after a raise from early position and then quite a large re-raise from early/mid position - at best your facing at least someone with an Ace in their hand, possibly Ace-King or at worst your looking at someone with pocket Aces or Kings.

So really you are looking at an either 50/50 race your pair versus their overcards, or you are a major underdog to Aces or Kings.

I probably would of folded here if it was in the early or mid part of the tournament - not worth risking your chips. Better to let a premium hand go and make a big laydown rather than risk your exit from the tournament.


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I sit there saying to myself thats a KK or AA raise. But I had enough chips to take a flop. Flop 8s6s3c.

He pushed all in on the flop. Now I felt I had to call with the overpair incase he was on flush draw.
Now they won't of hit anything on the flop, so your left with the options that he already has you beat with Ace's or King's or that he still has two overcards and is trying to make a continuation bet here.

You have to go with your instincts on your reads - if you feel he has Ace's or King's then get out of it - from the pre-flop activity it certainly backs your instinct up.


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Originally Posted by Fenrir View Post
I said to myself during the hand about 3 times hes got KK or AA yet I kept clicking the call button. So he shows AA and im knocked out.

The question is should I have folded preflop even though I had a monster hand. I would have to be 100% sure he has KK or AA dont I?
No - you don't need to be 100% sure - you want to avoid all risk early on in a tournament, so you don't have to know for sure he has Ace's or Kings to fold Queens - you can afford to just fold this hand pre-flop and wait for a better opportunity.

When you get shortstacked (less than 5 x BB+SB) and its getting later on in the tournament thats when your happy to take your 50/50 races and take a bit more risk, but early on your aim is to stay alive and build your pot when you hit your hands.

The way I would look at the above hand is that even though you had Queens it was a bit of a similar situation to a small or mid pocket pair - where you were fairly sure you opponent at least has overcards to yourself so to be certain of winning you would need to hit trips to win the hand will only an 8-1 chance.

Funnily enough - I went out of a tournament last night with Queens and my opponent turned over Ace's - We had just gone to the final table and I was pretty low on chips with about 4 times BB+SB+Antes so I had to push with Queens and a guy who had limped in from early position called and flipped over Ace's
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